NO SECOND BATTLE OF VYRNWY YET? ALL QUIET ON THE VYRNWY FRONT! WHAT NEXT? A Walk From Tryweryn To Vyrnwy Via Bwlch y Groes 21 - 23 October 2010, Yes?

At last Plaid Cymru speaks up or rather whispers a little protest about the Vyrnwy Land Grab, see below link and follow thru:

Concerns over lease sale at Lake Vyrnwy Estate « Shropshire Star

20 Sep 2010 ... Concerns over lease sale at Lake Vyrnwy Estate ... Mr Thomas said: “Apart from Ministry of Defence land this is the largest estate in Wales ...
www.shropshirestar.com/.../concerns-over-lease-sale-at-lake-vyrnwy-estate/ - Cached

Up to now the 'Saisgelders' who want to buy our own land back, yes a really dumb idea not least when it's on a 125 year lease. Yee Gods!!! They have only as of yet raised £7.000 which might be a down payment on a very nice 'Cottage' near Vyrnwy. Up for sale, see link below:

4 bedroom character property for sale in Vyrnwy Cottage ...

4 bedroom character property for sale in Vyrnwy Cottage, Llansantffraid, Llansantffraid, SY22 - Rightmove.
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Why not consider this suggestion, buy this four bed room cottage and turn it into a 'Nationalist Hostel' oh alright then a 'Cultural Cymric Cottage', I believe that in the land of Occitan, see my Cydsafiad Cymru blog below.

CYDSAFIAD CYMRU - Small Nations Support - Promoting Welsh ...

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1 Aug 2010 ... CYDSAFIAD CYMRU - Small Nations Support - Promoting Welsh Solidarity Campaigns. News and Information on the Small Nations of Europe and ...
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There Cottages are bought in the rural area and turned into 'Occitan Cultural Centres', this strikes me as an excellent idea with objective of establishing a network throughout Cymru/Wales as essentially short break/weekend holiday hostels as are being established otherwise throughout the land, usually by 'Colonists' offering themed and reasonably priced accomodation. Certainly this would have been a better idea rather than having a Meibion Glyndwr burn our own cottages down, kind of drastic and 'wrong headed' thinking really. So, now think 'CYMRIC COTTAGE CULTURAL CENTRES COOPERATIVES' as a 'Nationalist Hostel' scheme, something 'Yr Urdd' could do easy but of course they would sanitise and self censorship but there you go that's the way things are on the Welsh Cultural Scene, pretty tame!

Other Vyrnwy Estate News:

See Getty Images for great foto of sign declaring that the land there is the property of the Vyrnwy Estate as owned by the Severn Trent Authority, just wonderful!

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The sale by Severn Trent Water of 23000 acres is believed to be one of the biggest land salesfor generations and includes agriculture, forestry and ...
www.daylife.com/photo/0bTGdMZbut2ZM?q=Severn+Trent - Cached

Severn Vyrnwy Land Management Initiatve - Resources for Change of Oswestry, Change for whom and whose benefit? Are these 'Good Guys' or an agency for Colonisation and contributing to the making of Powys a Welsh 'Palestine' on the west bank of 'Offa's Dyke'. Someone 'suss em' and let me know how they figure into the scheme of things re the crisis in rural Wales with all the talk of a 'Managed Playground' a euphemism for 'Theme Park.

Resources for Change - Severn Vyrnwy Land Management Initiative

26 Sep 2010 ... Severn Vyrnwy Land Management Initiative. How best to support farmers and preserve habitats? As part of a UK-wide exercise, we supported the ...
www.r4c.org.uk/LinkClick.aspx?link=160&tabid=312&mid... - Cached

This looks interesting:

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Spring 2010 - Cymru Wledig Rural Wales

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the school playground at pick-up time, on the edge of the football field, down ...... or small, in either an urban or rural area, managed, cared ...
www.cprw.org.uk/documents/spring2010.pdf

Anyone up for that walk idea Tryweryn to Vyrnwy, need young people for this, more than a bit too far for me:

Lake Vyrnwy (Llyn Efyrnwy) area - map of - Lake Vyrnwy (Llyn ...

Many of the things to do in Lake Vyrnwy (Llyn Efyrnwy), Powys are shown on the map below, including local attractions, land features and railway stations. ...
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A Walk for Homes and Jobs, Language, Land and Liberty. Get wise, it's a package that cannot be seperated into neat piece meal social econimic reformism to suit Cymric Cultural Conservatism. I think it's time that many of the 'Pontcanna Patagonians' considered forgetting continuing to dream of the 'ShamelessS4C' good life in Caerdydd and instead committed themselves and their children to a BACK TO THE LAND CAMPAIGN and started to re-occupy your CYMRIC HEARTLANDS! I believe Native Americans encourage their 'urban retirees' to settle in Montana to make of it 'Indian Country', I will do a post on this too sometime over on by Cydsafiad Cymru blog.

Lake Vyrnwy (Llyn Efyrnwy) area - map of - Lake Vyrnwy (Llyn ...

Many of the things to do in Lake Vyrnwy (Llyn Efyrnwy), Powys are shown on the map below, including local attractions, land features and railway stations. ...
www.pagemost.com/Lake-Vyrnwy-(Llyn-Efyrnwy)-Powys - Cached - Similar

To 'Remember Tryweryn 1965' and ignore or forget the Vyrnwy Land Grab Issue 2010 would really just show how phony Welsh Nationalism; Political and Cultural really is, very much a Patriotic Fraud full of Patriotic Fringe Fakery. Is that to be the judgment of history, that's up to you?

Gethin Gruffydd.

LAST LEG OF THE WALK THAT NEVER WAS? The North East Walks Back Into Our Past, CAERDREWYN to FYRNWY, Maybe?

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Sadly the South did no arise, neither did the West and there are no signs of discontent in Gwynedd but they could stay in reserve for Mis Hydref by which time the Great Vyrnwy Land Grab Auction will have taken place. Depending on that and whom has bought it up and if the community is to get anything out of it or not? Might be more reason to protest and hold a major demonstration possibly to coincide with the 21 October 45th Anniversary of 'Cofiwch Dreweryn'.

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Instead of wasting valuable Welsh time in patriotic pointlessness to advance egos and vanities of the 'Fantasy Fringe Face Book Fusiliers', I suggest between 21 - 23 Hydref that Gwynedd Patriots walk from Llyn Celyn over Bwlch y Groes to Llyn Efyrnwy to hold a protest rally at the Vyrnwy Centre Sculpture Park concluding with a meeting in Llanwddyn, perhaps to establish a CYMRIC HEARTLANDS MOVEMENT (amalgamatiing Cymuned and Llais Gwynedd, go on you know it makes sense) or and a COUNCIL for the DEFENCE of RURAL WALES. This latter body may, I suggest be made up of representatives of various Welsh Patriotic Organisations, Societies and Groups who would have concern regards the future of rural Wales; Socio - Economically and Culturally. I suggest advice is taken here from the North East Wales based North Wales Peoples Council who have a good track record regards similar concerns.

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In fact they are better placed than I to be dealing with the Vyrnwy Issue, as it's in their back yard and directly concerns they as a body representing North Wales. Plus given what Peter Ogden/CPRW has to say re the North East being a playground for the Wirral, Liverpool and Chester then yes Vyrnwy and Rural North East Wales is in the territory of the Peoples Council and I am very much an intrusion into their patch. So, I will back off and focus on the Open Casts and Wind milling of the South, that's more than enough for this 'Hwntw'.

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Hopefully, as it is the Plaid Cymru conference this weekend in Aberystwyth, the Wrecsam Branch that regards Plaid Cymru has a 'Tarian Cymru' will raise these matters

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Plaid Wrecsam: Tarian Cymru - a shield for Wales

11 May 2010 ... Plaid has a vital job to do as "Tarian Cymru" - a shield for Wales. ... Plaid Cymru councillors were elected for the first time to Wrecsam ...
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Alternativelly there is Tarian Glyndwr:

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   17 Aug 2010 ... Mudiad Tarian Glyndŵr campaigns against oppression of our people and ....The Vyrnwy dam and reservoir were the first of many that would be ...
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Great haste is much needed I feel re setting up a CDRW (perhaps over weekend of 24/25 September?) as result of the CPRW - Council For the Protection of Rural Wales promoting the idea of Rural Wales, Central Cymru in particular becoming a 'Managed Playground', see September posts in Campaign Cymru blog. link below:

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CAMPAIGNS CYMRU: DAL dy DIR? CYMUNED + VYRNWY WELSHLAND SELL OFF ...

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As to other proposed Patriotic Protests regards 24/25 September, I have been advised not to to push for major Nationalist Demonstrations that weekend prior to the meeting of the Council and Community on Monday 27 September. Reasons I am given do make sense really as for starters we must not in first instance be seen to be putting pressure on the council or the community plus if a major demo is held this month, that could undermine call for another in October. I got to admit this makes sense as I myself could not aford to make more than one more journey to Vyrnwy this year when I have already been once earlier in the year. So yes! I say hold back untill after the 27th September meeting following which much more information could become available, making better judgement possible regards any major protests and demonstrations in the Autumn? However, there is no reason why Nationalists can not meet in Llanwddyn as suggested in the Seven Rivers Project to discuss a number of issues as well as the Great Fyrnwy Land Grab, see link:

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   26 Jul 2010 ... events and activities organised by the SEVEN RIVERS PROJECT as an 'Annual. Assembly' in area untill such time as perhaps an actual CANOLFAN ...
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   However, so patriotic concerns are not totally pushed aside those in the North East March who wish to make a suitable 'Symbolic Gesture', very appropriate to Mis Medi - Mis Glyndwr, why not carry out the following last leg of the 'Long Walk For Wales' that never was?

   N.E.W. March Patriots could rise to the occaision on 18th Medi at Caerdreweryn and from there walk route of Glyndwr's great raid of Mis Medi 1400 to reach Fyrnwy on 26th September Anniversary of the Battle of Fyrnwy (Welsh records of the time referr to it has a massacre? more likes a skirmish). That would be something but alternativelly just motorcade the route from Caerdreweryn/Corwen to Fyrnwy over weekend of 25/26th September. I believe Embassy Glyndwr might be setting up a 'Tarian Glyndwr' Battle Site Registration plaque that weekend some where in area of Fyrnwy?
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   31 Aug 2010 ... A SECOND BATTLE OF VYRNWY? . .Welsh Remembrancer.: TARIAN CYMRU SAYS STOP SELLING OFF THE VYRNWY ... 9 Jul 2010... OFF THE VYRNWY ESTATE - A ...brwydrauglyndwr.blogspot.com/.../battle-of-vyrnwy-26-medi-1400-but-what.html - Cached

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   To conclude some slogans for Placards and Posters regards Fyrnwy and

   other Land and Liberty Campaigns:

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   DAL DY DIR!

   HOLD THE LAND!

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   TYDI CYMRU DDIM AR WERTH!

   WALES IS NOT FOR SALE!

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   RHWYSTRWCH Y RHEIBIO AR FYRNWY NAWR!

   STOP THE GREAT VYRNWY LAND GRAB!

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   TIR TEULU GLYNDWR YW'R TIR YMA!

   THS LAND BELONGS TO TEULU GLYNDWR!

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   BRWYDRWCH DROS IAITH, TIR A DROS RHYDDID!

   STRUGGLE FOR LANGUAGE, LAND AND LIBERTY!

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   EIN DWR, EIN TIR, EIN GWLAD!

   OUR WATER, OUR LAND, OUR COUNTRY!

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   YMGYRCH YN ERBYN CONCWEST Y LLYFR SIEC A GWLADYCHIANT!

   CAMPAIGN AGAINST CHEQUE BOOK CONQUEST AND COLONIALISM!

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   DIWEITHDRA A DIBOBLOG I HIL - LADDIAD!

   UNEMPLOYMENT AND DEPOPULATION ETHNIC CLEANSING BY OTHER MEANS!

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   Optionally all signed at top with TARIAN CYMRU and at end by

   Land & Liberty

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                  1. 1. 1. RuralScapes Origins: Ruralscapes

                        1. 1. 1. Ruralscapes started life in 1999 as the Severn Vyrnwy Project which
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